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Code Guru Gender:  Posts: 1399 Topics: 85
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December 30, 2008, 05:59:03 AM
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I have gotten myself a Sun Enterprise server, with lots of storage, quite a few processors and redundant power supplies. I have to now find a use for it and am considering setting up an ISP (specifically to serve web pages from) - what do people think would make a good set of features and at what sort of price? - I am thinking of providing the usual such as MySQL, PHP, CGI, FTP, Cpanel etc but what other things do people find useful (for instance is a Tomcat server something which is nice to have?)
Also, I am a great believer in Unique Selling Points - is there anything that people think should be provided by an ISP but isn't?
I am still undecided whether or not I am going to do this, is it worth it?
Nick
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Formerly theone759. Activity
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Professional Coder Posts: 351 Topics: 53
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January 02, 2009, 09:28:59 AM
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Well I think you mean you want to setup a host, not a ISP (ISP = Internet Service Provier).
Depending on how much space you have (That would be nice to know if you wouldn't mind telling us, so we can help).
I believe you would have to install each, MySQL,PHP and everything else that you want seperatly, and have them connect with each other. Also, im not sure if you know this or not, but CPanel isn't free. One I saw at Cpanel.Net was $400+.
Also, check other hosting sites, see what they offer, and try to do that, but with a lil' extra.
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Code Guru Gender: Posts: 1399 Topics: 85
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January 02, 2009, 09:33:53 AM
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Right, thats interesting you say that.... I use terms host and ISP interchangably (because when you host a page for someone you are providing an internet service)
Space wise, initially a few hundred GB, but I have the option of purchasing some very large storage servers if needed (a few hundred GB will be enough initially and then I will earn sufficient amount of ££ to purchase extra storage if needed.) Installing MySQL, PHP etc is easy to do, but I want to know what extra would be nice to have available too.
I forgot that CPanel wasn't free - do they do a "basic" cheap version?
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Formerly theone759. Activity
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January 02, 2009, 09:44:02 AM
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Umm, Im not sure. I just quickly looked through http://cpanel.net. Also, you may want to start out with handpicking customers based on what they need (such as space), because that will also mean you have less clients, and you could provide a better support for them, and help them with things (such as if they need help installing something. Things extra could be just offering Fantastico ( http://www.netenberg.com/fantastico.php) which is a automated installation script for things such as CMS's, Forums, Blogs etc... You could also offer to install scripts for them. Try and have a good support system, which is something you would really want to look into. Also, if you create a support forum I'd be glad to help you.
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Code Guru Gender: Posts: 1399 Topics: 85
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January 02, 2009, 10:49:22 AM
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Cheers - an excellent point about support, I hadn't really considered that.
As I say, not sure if I will do this yet, still thinking about it!
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Formerly theone759. Activity
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January 02, 2009, 12:35:39 PM
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Another question, are you running this from your home, or is it from another host that you're paying for?
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Code Guru Gender: Posts: 1399 Topics: 85
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January 02, 2009, 12:37:08 PM
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Bit of both  Running from home initially on this sun enterprise server I have got, but have the option of renting a server at a hosts (if popular enough.)
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Formerly theone759. Activity
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January 02, 2009, 12:45:15 PM
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I see. Does your current ISP (The one to be able to go online) allow you host? If they do you should check your bandwidth limits.
Theres alot to it, but it can be worth it if done right.
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Code Guru Gender: Posts: 1399 Topics: 85
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January 02, 2009, 02:59:24 PM
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Yes, they do, and I don't have a BW limit.
Yup, it just all depends on if its going to make me money or not
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Formerly theone759. Activity
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January 02, 2009, 03:16:22 PM
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Do you want to make money? Or do you want to offer a free service?
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Code Guru Gender: Posts: 1399 Topics: 85
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January 02, 2009, 03:24:17 PM
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Money, why else do it?
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Formerly theone759. Activity
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January 02, 2009, 04:25:49 PM
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I don't know, why do other hosts do it?
You could have one thing where its free, but you place (a) ad(s) on all the sites, and have a removal fee. Then have a paid one with no ads.
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January 12, 2009, 08:32:52 AM
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When you say ISP you mean a web host?
It sounds like a good idea of you have the resources, the more people you get the more work it will be good luck.
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Code Guru Gender: Posts: 1399 Topics: 85
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January 12, 2009, 09:50:32 AM
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When you say ISP you mean a web host?
Yes, sorry for any confusion. I have actually gone back to the drawing board with this.... the server I have is, well a server, and very loud when its on (to keep it cool) - unfortunately this means its not particularly practical for me to have it on all the time, I am not sure if its worth modifying it to make it quieter
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Formerly theone759. Activity
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January 12, 2009, 01:09:00 PM
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Well, if its because of the heat, you could just put a (small) fan in front of it, that should keep it quiet.
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Code Guru Gender: Posts: 1399 Topics: 85
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January 13, 2009, 06:10:55 AM
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Well, if its because of the heat, you could just put a (small) fan in front of it, that should keep it quiet.
No, its all the fans inside (3 monster fans and about 5 or 6 smaller ones) to keep all the CPUs, power supplies etc cool - without these it would dangerously overheat. Removing these fans would be a bad idea too, although I did consider removing some of the CPUs to reduce the heat generated. I might sort some noise reduction box thing out, not decided yet.
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May 05, 2011, 01:18:28 AM
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Professional Coder Posts: 229 Topics: 7
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July 19, 2011, 01:03:18 AM
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As setting up an isp is very important to understand basics behind it. Because of this posts i know something shortly about it.
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New Coder Posts: 26 Topics: 4
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August 17, 2011, 12:13:09 AM
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By ISP we mean web host. It is a good idea to have the resources and more people will work for it. Best of luck in advance.
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Professional Coder Gender:  Posts: 242 Topics: 3
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November 22, 2011, 08:43:48 AM
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Internet Service Provider, that thing is not set. It is availed. Maybe you mean, host, network or subnet?
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Skilled Coder Posts: 105 Topics: 0
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December 29, 2011, 03:26:04 AM
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Making an ISP is a nice ideas. Go a head. Best wishes for you. 
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January 05, 2012, 02:59:09 PM
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I accept in fact gone aback to the cartoon lath with this. . . . the server I accept is, able-bodied a server, and actual loud if its on (to accumulate it cool) - abominably this agency its not decidedly applied for me to accept it on all the time, I am not abiding if its account modifying it to accomplish it quieter.
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New Coder Posts: 19 Topics: 2
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January 06, 2012, 12:55:53 AM
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When you say you mean ISP web hosting provider, it sounds like a good idea to have the resources, more people will make the job good luck.
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